Shooting Scares and Mayor's Reports: Just Another Day in Akron
Lots of news today, along with an extended look at a new report from the Mayor.
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Takeaways:
- In Akron, the police department has faced scrutiny over use of force incidents and accountability issues.
- Recent independent reviews revealed a staggering disconnect between public perception and actual police violence statistics.
- The ongoing investigation of illegal gambling operations in Akron highlights community concerns about local crime.
- The Rock Hall expansion aims to enhance community engagement and drive tourism for Northeast Ohio.
- Akron Honey's withdrawal from the Northside Marketplace shows significant vendor concerns about payment delays and transparency.
- A recent shooting incident in Akron has raised alarms about community safety and the need for better conflict resolution.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:18 - Untitled
00:52 - Illegal Gambling Crack Down
02:04 - Rock Hall Expansion
04:57 - Northside Marketplace Having Issues
09:20 - Summit Mall Shooting Scare
10:09 - Deadly Shooting in the Valley
11:38 - Akron Events
12:39 - Police Report Released
15:11 - AI Summary of Report
It's the akron podcast for May 9, 2026.
Speaker AWe've got two shootings, some illegal gambling.
Speaker AWe got some problems at the Northside Marketplace.
Speaker AWe got some updates at the Rock hall.
Speaker AAnd the mayor is released that independent report about police brutality.
Speaker AAnd at the end, we're going to have a summary of that.
Speaker AIt's the Akron Podcast.
Speaker AOur website is akronpodcast.com Ohio authorities are cracking down on illegal gambling operations in Akron.
Speaker AThe Ohio Casino Control Commission teamed up with the Akron Police Department on May 6 to serve search warrants at two businesses located at 141 E. York St. And 1283 E. Talbot Ave. Investigators say the businesses were operating illegal gaming machines after complaints from from the community triggered the investigation.
Speaker ADuring the raids, authorities seized or disabled about 27 suspected illegal slot machines, along with an undisclosed amount of cash.
Speaker AOfficials say illegal casinos hurt local communities and stress the importance of partnering with the local police to enforce Ohio gaming laws.
Speaker AThe investigation remains ongoing.
Speaker AStatewide, this is amazing.
Speaker AThe commission says it has now rated more than 181 locations and seized or disabled nearly 8,000 illegal slot machines, more than the total number of slot machines inside Ohio's four legal casinos combined.
Speaker AThat's amazing.
Speaker AJust up the road in Cleveland, the Rock and Roll hall of Fame expansion is moving right along, and according to the CEO Greg Harris, it's both on time and on budget.
Speaker ANow the project adds about 50,000 square feet of new space designed to bring in more live music, educational programs and community events.
Speaker AThe goal is to open things up with a certificate of occupancy by October, with the first major events in early December.
Speaker AOne of the cooler additions?
Speaker AA new park connecting the Rock hall to the Great Lakes Science center, which will operate in partnership with with the Cleveland Metro Parks.
Speaker AThe bottom line is this isn't just a facelift.
Speaker AIt's a bigger play to drive tourism events and economic impact across Northeast Ohio, which is great to hear.
Speaker AI actually went to the Rock hall last year after kind of getting there when it was open up, and it still seems to be a bit if you've ever been to a Hard Rock Cafe, it's kind of like one of those with a much bigger exit through the gift shop.
Speaker ANow the one thing I saw that I thought was cool is on one of the floors they actually have drums and guitars and basses.
Speaker ASo if you're a musician and you go there and you're like, man, I'm dying to make some music, you can.
Speaker AThere was a big section on Saturday Night Live, which I thought was interesting because you know, it's the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.
Speaker AIt's not the Comedy hall of Fame, but they had a lot of glimpses of bands that have played there.
Speaker ABut they had a lot of, like, costumes.
Speaker ALike, here's the Prince that Fred Armistat wore when he, you know, made fun of Prince.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, yeah, I'd rather actually just see the stuff that Prince wore than the stuff that the guy imitating Prince wore.
Speaker ASo I'm always kind of mixed feelings on the Rock hall, but it's an easy.
Speaker AIf you go there, you can.
Speaker AThere are a bunch of different apps you can use to find cheap parking, and it's always fun to see.
Speaker AThe other thing I thought that drove me nuts that they have changed is a lot of the stuff that you can read.
Speaker ALike, here are the handwritten lyrics from Jim Morrison.
Speaker AThose were hung about calf high, so you have to kind of stand on your head to read these, where they used to be in kind of like a cabinet almost, or like a jewelry display where you could look through it and read it.
Speaker AAnd there were a couple times I wanted to look at stuff and it was just way too low.
Speaker ASo I hope, you know, it'll be interesting to see what they do with this.
Speaker AI wish they would quit inducting people that don't play rock music into the rock hall.
Speaker AYou know, Dolly Parton even said, look, I'm not a rocker.
Speaker ADon't induct me.
Speaker AAnd we did anyway.
Speaker AMeanwhile, Ted Nugent, who was one of the biggest acts in the 70s, isn't in there because, well, you know, politics.
Speaker AIf you've ever been down to the north side, you know, you got Luigi's, you got Jilis and things like that.
Speaker AWell, there's also a place there called the Northside Marketplace.
Speaker AAnd a story came out about Akron Honey because they've officially pulled its products from the Northside Marketplace after the owner, Brent Wesley, says the business went months without receiving payments for products sold inside the marketplace.
Speaker AHe explained that the north side uses a centralized checkout system where vendors receive payouts after customer purchases are processed.
Speaker AHe says the system worked for years, but around 2023, payments became inconsistent.
Speaker AAfter reviewing his records, Wesley claims the north side owed Akron honey more than $20,000 in unpaid sales at one point.
Speaker AHe says recent partial payments reduced the balance to around 1,700.
Speaker ABut the larger concern, accountability and how vendor funds were being handled.
Speaker AAccording to Wesley, vendor revenue was reportedly being deposited into a shared account before payouts were distributed, something he says was never clearly addressed.
Speaker AAfter speaking publicly about the issue, he says multiple other vendors reached out describing similar payment delays.
Speaker AThe Northside Marketplace owner Justin Lepley acknowledged the delays in a Facebook statement, saying vendors have every right to feel frustrated.
Speaker AHe cited ongoing financial and cash flow problems and said the marketplace is working with the city of Akron and local funding partners to stabilize operations.
Speaker AYeah, okay, we kind of figured that.
Speaker AA former employee also told wkyc, that's Channel three, that vendor payment complaints have been happening for quite some time, saying the problems affected not only vendors but but employees and outside contractors as well.
Speaker ASo it sounds like Mr. Lepley needs a class in income and outcome.
Speaker AAnd I get it.
Speaker AYou know, you can't have any sales if you don't have a store and you got to pay the rent first or whatever's going on.
Speaker ASo I go out to him.
Speaker ABut this isn't good and it's cool to have that little marketplace.
Speaker AIf you go in, they have all sorts of T shirts about Akron, Ohio and things like that and it says for now Akron Honey Products will stay out of the Northside Marketplace.
Speaker AAnd Wesley says any return would depend on rebuilding trust and improving transparency.
Speaker AA shooting scare at Summit Mall on Friday afternoon led to one arrest, but police say there was no active shooter and no injuries.
Speaker AAccording to Akron and Fairlawn police, gunfire broke out around 3pm in the mall parking lot after a 17 year old suspect got into an altercation with a group of juveniles.
Speaker AInvestigators say the teen fired two shots into the air before trying to flee on foot.
Speaker AOfficers quickly apprehended the suspect and took him into custody.
Speaker APolice searched the mall, found no additional threats and confirmed there were no victims.
Speaker AOnce again, can we learn like how to have a dialogue and maybe, you know, listen to each other before we pull out the, you know, 45 and start shooting people.
Speaker AOne more shooting, this one was deadly.
Speaker AIt was at the Noisy Oyster in Akron's Merriman Valley and it left one man dead and another one injured.
Speaker APolice say the shooting happened Monday night around 8:14 after an argument between a third 31 year old man, Eric Schaefer, and Larnell Neely Jr escalated into a physical confrontation.
Speaker AInvestigators say Neely allegedly shot Schaefer multiple times and Shaffer was taken to the Cleveland Clinic Akron General, where he later died from his injuries.
Speaker AA 35 year old bystander was also hurt but suffered non life threatening injuries.
Speaker APolice say Neely fled the scene, but officers later found clothing believed to belonged to him during their search.
Speaker AHours later he turned himself in at Summit County Jail is now charged with murder and felonious assault, and a judge has set his bond at $1 million.
Speaker ASchaefer's family released a statement saying they are devastated by the loss and asked for privacy as they grieve.
Speaker AThe noisy Oyster said its staff is heartbroken and announced the bar will temporarily close.
Speaker AAkron Mayor Seamus Malik and Police Chief Brian Harding both praised officers for their quick response, while Harding called the shooting senseless violence that has no place in this community.
Speaker AI would agree.
Speaker ALet's take a quick look at the calendar.
Speaker AThe nexstar National Talent Competition is going on this weekend at the Civic Theater.
Speaker AIf you're a guitar player, the Satch VI Band is is at the Northfield Racino with the Hydra 2026 tour.
Speaker AMolly Tuttle and Maggie Rose are at the Kent stage.
Speaker AThat's May 15th.
Speaker AThe one I wanted to mention that's new is May 19th.
Speaker AThe state of the City address.
Speaker AThis is the mayor will be giving this is his third, you know, kind of address speech.
Speaker AThis starts at five doors open at four at the Civic Theater.
Speaker AI might have to go to that, but some great things coming to Akron.
Speaker AFor more information, go to akronpodcast.com events and if you go check out something, go out.
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Speaker AYou can leave some feedback.
Speaker ALet us know what you saw and how the concert was Mayor Malik announced the release of an independent review of the Akron Police Department's use of force policies along with a public dashboard that will track the city's progress in implementing reforms.
Speaker AThat sounds cool.
Speaker AThe review, conducted by the Police Executive research forum, outlines 58 recommendations aimed at improving accountability, transparency, officer training, oversight, de escalation and safety procedures.
Speaker AIt is safe to assume that the police union.
Speaker AYeah, not happy about it.
Speaker ACity officials said 18 of the recommendations have already been implemented.
Speaker AKey proposals include combining all use of force policies into one clear document.
Speaker AThat sure sounds like common sense, emphasizing principles like the sanctity of life.
Speaker AHere's a novel idea.
Speaker AAnd proportional use of force.
Speaker AImproving that.
Speaker AThat's a tough one.
Speaker AAgain, when you got some crazy guy on drugs with a weapon, I would not want to be in their shoes.
Speaker AAnd I really tip my hat to all police officers and really all first responders.
Speaker AImproving officer training and supervision.
Speaker AYeah, I would say that maybe firing people who have a history of, you know, shooting people.
Speaker AThere's a novel idea that's just my own.
Speaker AAnd expanding public transparency through monthly dashboard updates.
Speaker AThat sounds great.
Speaker AI'm all for transparency as long as it's 100% transparent.
Speaker ALike body cams, never get turned off, that kind of thing.
Speaker AMalik said, the goal is to improve outcomes in difficult situations while building public trust.
Speaker AYeah, that's a good goal.
Speaker ABrian Harding said, the department is focused on putting recommendations into action and ensuring officers have the tools and guidance needed to make sound decisions.
Speaker ACraig Morgan added, the long term follow through will be critical, you think, to modernizing the department and maintaining the transparency.
Speaker ANow, this report was 134 pages.
Speaker AI did not read it.
Speaker AI tried.
Speaker AAnd so what I did is we're going to play.
Speaker AIt's about a 20 minute clip.
Speaker AAnd what I did was I had AI go through and read it and summarize it for us.
Speaker ASo with that, I give you Kyle and Sheila.
Speaker BWhen you see a headline about a police use of force incident, what percentage of everyday police calls do you think actually end in violence?
Speaker CProbably a lot higher than the reality, I'd guess.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BYou'd think maybe 10%, 5%.
Speaker BWell, if you look at the 2025 data for Akron, Ohio, that number is actually 0.22%, which is incredibly low.
Speaker BIt is, but here's the catch.
Speaker BEven that tiny, tiny fraction of a percent is.
Speaker BWell, it's artificially inflated.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker BToday we are opening up this massive, totally independent review from April 2026 by the Police Executive Research Forum, usually just called PRF.
Speaker BYeah, exactly.
Speaker BPRF.
Speaker BAnd they did this exhaustive evaluation of the Akron Police Department or apd.
Speaker CAnd what makes this specific document such a gold mine is that it deliberately ignores all the political noise.
Speaker BThank goodness.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI mean, it doesn't just focus on those highly publicized, polarizing incidents that, you know, dominate the news cycle.
Speaker BRight, the stuff you see on Twitter.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker CInstead, it evaluates the entire invisible machinery of the department.
Speaker CWe are talking about the policies, the training standards, the union dynamics.
Speaker BOr nuts and bolts.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CThe foundational architecture that dictates exactly how an officer behaves on your street long before a situation ever has the chance to escalate.
Speaker BAnd that is exactly the angle we are taking today.
Speaker BWe are bypassing the politics entirely.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker BFor you, the citizen, the core question is just really straightforward.
Speaker BBased on this document, do you have to worry about unnecessary police violence in your neighborhood?
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CWhat's the actual risk?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWhat is the actual likelihood of force being used?
Speaker BAnd what concrete systems are in place to prevent things from going wrong?
Speaker BOkay, let's untack this.
Speaker CTo really gauge that risk, we first have to look at the raw numbers.
Speaker BThe 0.22%.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd when you analyze the data PRF compiled.
Speaker CIt reveals this staggering disconnect between public perception and statistical reality.
Speaker BThe baseline numbers in the report are very sobering.
Speaker BSince 2019, APD officers have been involved in seven fatal and seven non fatal.
Speaker CShootings, which is obviously deeply serious.
Speaker BEvery single one of those is a tragedy.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThey leave a lasting impact on the community.
Speaker BBut you have to zoom out to look at the broader day to day operations to understand the systemic risk.
Speaker CRight, the everyday calls.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBecause in 2025 alone, APD officers responded to 127,524 calls for service.
Speaker CThat is a massive volume.
Speaker BIt's huge.
Speaker BAnd out of all those hundreds of thousands of interactions, only 280 involved some type of use of force.
Speaker BThat is where that 0.22% figure comes from.
Speaker CBut what's fascinating here is that the.22% figure is not even a true representation of how often physical force is applied.
Speaker BWait, really?
Speaker CYeah, it's actually a data anomaly.
Speaker CIt's driven entirely by this specific rule on the books.
Speaker CAPD policy P 2021 032.
Speaker BI read that section and I couldn't quite believe how it plays out in reality.
Speaker CIt's strange.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CThis policy establishes an incredibly broad definition of what constitutes reportable force.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BUnder this policy, if an officer uses force, they obviously write a report.
Speaker BBut if a second officer simply steps in to assist, just to help out.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BMaybe they just help secure the scene or put a hand on a suspect's shoulder without actually using any real physical coercion.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker BThat second officer is also required to write a full use of force report.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CAnd then the tracking system logs it as multiple officers using force in a.
Speaker BSingle incident when physically only one officer actually did anything.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker CThat is the exact mechanism of the inflation.
Speaker CYou basically have administrative red tape duplicating the data.
Speaker BThat's like a hospital counting a nurse handing out a band aid as a full surgical procedure.
Speaker CIt's a great analogy.
Speaker BI mean, it totally distorts the data.
Speaker BBut reading this, my immediate thought was why does a clerical issue actually matter to the average person living in Akron?
Speaker BIt's just bad paperworker.
Speaker CWell, it matters because that bad paperwork actively fuels community distrust.
Speaker BOh, because of the transparency dashboard.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker CYou have citizens looking at the city's public dashboard, seeing these inflated numbers and genuinely concluding that police are just using force all the time.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CMeanwhile, you have the officers out on patrol feeling deeply misunderstood and frankly, unfairly vilified because they know the reality on the street is much, much lower.
Speaker BSo it creates this wedge of mutual suspicion simply because the reporting system is badly designed.
Speaker CPrecisely.
Speaker CWhich is why PRFS strongly recommends moving to a tiered reporting system to accurately categorize different levels of interaction and fix this exact issue.
Speaker BOkay, so that data issue perfectly explains the public relations problem, but let's look.
Speaker CAt the actual street level, the tactical side.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWhen an officer actually does put hands on someone, what standard is used to judge if that force was right or wrong?
Speaker CThis leads us into what is, well, a really strange psychological quirk inside the apd.
Speaker BThe Supreme Court thing.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CSo the PRF reviewers noted this highly unusual detail during their interviews.
Speaker CAt least one officer from every single rank cohort, from the newest rookies fresh out of the academy, all the way up to the veteran captain.
Speaker BThey all did the exact same thing.
Speaker CThey did.
Speaker CThey spontaneously brought up a specific 1989 Supreme Court case called Graham v. Connor, completely unprompted.
Speaker BI mean, the reviewers would just ask a general question about force and the officers would immediately pivot to a 35 year old Supreme Court ruling.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CGraham v. Connor is the case that established the legal standard of objective reasonableness.
Speaker BWhich means what exactly?
Speaker CIt basically asks, would a reasonable officer on the scene possessing the exact same information have acted the same way in that split second?
Speaker BOkay, that sounds fair enough.
Speaker CIt does.
Speaker CBut here is the critical issue.
Speaker CThat standard is a legal baseline designed strictly to determine criminal liability.
Speaker BOh, I see.
Speaker CThe PRF report uses a great sports analogy to explain this.
Speaker CGraham is the minimum qualifying time you need to enter a race.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CIt keeps your actions constitutional, so you don't go to federal prison.
Speaker CBut qualifying for the race doesn't mean you ran a good race.
Speaker BSo basically, the entire department is aiming for a date?
Speaker CThat's one way to look at it.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BThey're looking back at an incident and asking was it legal?
Speaker BInstead of asking was it avoidable?
Speaker BThat feels incredibly backward for public safety.
Speaker BAnd reading further into their actual rulebook, it gets worse.
Speaker CYou're talking about the retreat clause.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BAPD actually has a no duty to retreat clause explicitly written into their use of force policy.
Speaker CWhich is completely contradictory to modern policing standards.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBecause modern de escalation tactics tell officers to use time to use distance, distance to find cover, create space.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker BIf a situation is escalating with a person in crisis, stepping behind a police Cruiser and waiting 10 minutes is often the smartest thing you can do to save a life.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker BBut their own policy is implicitly telling them, you don't have to back down, you can stand your ground.
Speaker CAnd that is exactly why PRF strongly recommends tearing that no duty or treat clause right out of the policy.
Speaker BJust get rid of it.
Speaker CGet rid of it.
Speaker CIt serves absolutely no productive purpose in modern law enforcement.
Speaker CInstead, PRF says APD needs to add explicit foundational commitments to the sanctity of human life and the concept of proportionality.
Speaker BSo changing the whole mindset.
Speaker CYes, the overarching goal here is to shift the department's psychology away from just trying to avoid civil lawsuits and toward actively preventing harm before it ever happens.
Speaker BNow, if you were listening to this right now, you might be wondering if the department is currently only aiming for the legal minimum, who is actually holding them accountable when things go wrong?
Speaker CThat is the million dollar question.
Speaker BWe have to look at how these use of force incidents are reviewed internally.
Speaker BAnd frankly, the statistics here dropped my jaw.
Speaker CThe internal review numbers are staggering.
Speaker CThey really are.
Speaker CAnd they highlight a profound structural issue.
Speaker BOkay, get this.
Speaker BIn 2024 APD supervisors reviewed 301 separate use of force incidents.
Speaker BThose incidents involved 773 officers.
Speaker BOut of all of those reviews, exactly one single incident was found to be out of policy.
Speaker CWhat?
Speaker COne.
Speaker BOne.
Speaker BThat is an out of policy rate of 1/3 of 1%.
Speaker CIt's incredibly low.
Speaker BThe report actually compares them to Hillsborough, Oregon.
Speaker BIt's a smaller department, but their out of policy rate was 4.1%, nearly 12 and a half times higher than Akron's,.
Speaker CWhich is a huge discrepancy.
Speaker BSo if you are doing the math in your head, you are probably thinking, how is it possible that 99.6% of the time the police investigate the police and find no wrongdoing?
Speaker CIt immediately sounds like a cover up.
Speaker BIt completely sounds like one.
Speaker CIt does.
Speaker CBut the report points out it's actually a structural flaw.
Speaker CIf we connect this to the bigger picture, it comes down to a massive structural conflict of interest.
Speaker BExplain that.
Speaker CSo in Akron, unlike in other major Ohio cities like Cleveland or Columbus, every single sworn member of the department is in the exact same union.
Speaker CFOP Lodge, hashtag7.
Speaker BWait, let me stop you there, because I want to make sure I understand the mechanics of this.
Speaker BFrom the rookie officer out on patrol all the way up to the captains who are tasked with reviewing their conduct.
Speaker CThey all share the same collective bargaining unit.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker CPrecisely.
Speaker CThink about the psychological dynamic of that.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CRight now, a captain is reviewing the use of force report of a junior officer.
Speaker CBut next Tuesday, that same captain and that same junior officer are sitting next to each other at the exact same union meeting.
Speaker CThey're paying the exact same dues and voting on the same union leadership.
Speaker BOh, man.
Speaker BThat is.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou cannot objectively judge someone when your financial and professional protections are inextricably tied to the exact same organization.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker CCreates a massive blind spot.
Speaker BEven if every single One of those 300 in policy findings was 100% factually correct and justified, the structure itself creates the appearance of preordained outcomes.
Speaker BYes, it looks exactly like the fox growing the hen house.
Speaker BAnd that just shatters any remaining public trust.
Speaker CWhich is why PR's recommendation here is absolute.
Speaker CYou have to separate supervisors into their own bargaining unit to restore a baseline of objectivity.
Speaker BBut wait, Akron does have external civilian oversight, right?
Speaker CThey do, yeah.
Speaker BThe voters approved the Office of the Independent police auditor, or OIPA, back in 2022.
Speaker BI think something like 62% of voters wanted this civilian board.
Speaker CThey did.
Speaker BSo why aren't they providing that accountability?
Speaker CThe OIPA dynamic is fascinating.
Speaker CIt turns out the OIPA actually agreed with the police department that force was legally justified 97% of the time.
Speaker BWow, 97%.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CBut the OIPA also has a public mandate to look for ways to improve the department.
Speaker CAnd because they were elected by 62% of the voters, there's immense political pressure on them to.
Speaker CWell, to look busy.
Speaker BTo prove they are holding the police accountable.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker CSo in their attempt to show the public that they are doing something, they essentially flood the police department with recommendations.
Speaker BHow many are we talking about?
Speaker COver just a seven month period, the OIPA issued 209 separate recommendations to APD.
Speaker B209 Recommendations in seven months?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BImagine being a police chief trying to operationalize 209 new rules in half a year.
Speaker CIt's an impossible task.
Speaker CAnd this is a classic organizational failure.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CWhen oversight boards issue massive amounts of redundant, unpredictable prioritize recommendations, it just becomes ambient noise.
Speaker BIt just becomes paperwork.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker CThe department gets completely overwhelmed, and as a survival mechanism, they simply start ignoring all of it.
Speaker BSo the truly high value life saving feedback gets lost in the flood of bureaucratic memos.
Speaker CPrecisely.
Speaker BSo how do we fix the ambient noise?
Speaker BHow do we make civilian oversight actually effective?
Speaker CInstead of just performative, PRF recommends creating a Critical Incident Review Board or cirb.
Speaker BOkay, what does that do?
Speaker CThis would be a specialized group that acts as a filter.
Speaker CInstead of the OIPA throwing 200 memos over the fence, they bring their most critical high value recommendations to the cirb.
Speaker BOh, I see.
Speaker CThe board then sits down and actually figures out how to implement those specific prioritized changes operationally.
Speaker BOkay, so the Public perception is skewed by terrible data tracking.
Speaker BThe standard for using force is stuck at the legal minimum of Graham v. Connor.
Speaker BAnd the oversight is completely bogged down by a union conflict of interest and an avalanche of memos.
Speaker CThat's the summary.
Speaker BWe've diagnosed the plumbing of the department.
Speaker BSo what are the actual tangible rule changes that PRF is demanding to keep citizens safe right now?
Speaker BWhat is going into the new playbook?
Speaker CLet's start with some of the specific physical tactics, because there are some very surprising gaps in APD's current policy.
Speaker BLike what, for instance?
Speaker CHead strikes.
Speaker BYou mean an officer physically punching a suspect in the head?
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker CCurrently, APD has no explicit restrictions on officers using closed fist punches to the head as a compliance tool against a resisting subject.
Speaker BWhich seems incredibly dangerous.
Speaker CIt is.
Speaker BI mean, a punch to the head isn't just about pain.
Speaker BYou can easily cause a traumatic brain injury, a fractured skull, or worse, just trying to get someone to put their hands behind their back.
Speaker CIt is lethal force adjacent.
Speaker CPRF demands this be explicitly banned.
Speaker BGo.
Speaker CHead strikes should never ever be used just to make someone physically comply with an order.
Speaker CThey should only be authorized if the officer is facing an immediate deadly force threat and is literally fighting for their life.
Speaker BNow here's where it gets really interesting to me.
Speaker BLooking at the tactical changes, the Taser section surprised me.
Speaker CThe ECWs?
Speaker BYeah, right.
Speaker BThe report calls them ECWs or electronic control Weapons.
Speaker BIt specifically calls out using Tasers on fleeing suspects.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker BMy initial thought reading this was, isn't stopping a fleeing suspect the exact purpose of a Taser?
Speaker BTo stop someone running away without having to tackle them?
Speaker CThat is a very common misconception, actually.
Speaker CBut Tasers are currently being used in highly dangerous ways.
Speaker BHow so?
Speaker CPRF recommends strict new rules.
Speaker CFirst, flight alone can no longer justify a TASER deployment.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CJust because someone is running away does not mean an officer can taser them.
Speaker CWhen you hit someone with a Taser while they are sprinting, their entire body locks up.
Speaker BOh, right.
Speaker CThey hit the pavement with zero ability to brace their fall.
Speaker CThe risk of them cracking their skull in the concrete and suffering a fatal secondary injury is incredibly high.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BWhich perfectly explains the next rule regarding bicycles.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CPRF states Tasers must be expressly prohibited against people riding bicycles, scooters, or any.
Speaker BMoving conveyance because of the crash.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker CThe secondary injuries from the resulting crash can easily be fatal.
Speaker CAdditionally, they're calling for a stripped 5 second standard cycle limit.
Speaker BExplain the medical reasoning behind the 5 second limit for us.
Speaker CWhen a TASER is deployed, it delivers a 5 second electrical cycle that incapacitates the muscles.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CSometimes officers hold the trigger down, delivering continuous or back to back cycles.
Speaker CMedically, prolonged electrical exposure severely stresses the heart and restricts breathing.
Speaker BThat sounds awful.
Speaker CBy enforcing a strict 5 second limit, it forces the officer to stop, let the person breathe, and actively reassess the threat before ever pulling the trigger again.
Speaker BThat makes total sense.
Speaker BWe also need to talk about medical emergencies because this is where a lot of these use of force incidents turn tragic.
Speaker CThey really do.
Speaker BThe report highlights PRF's 15 principles for reducing the risk of restraint related death.
Speaker BVery often, police encounter someone in a medical or behavioral emergency, an MBE.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker BThis could be someone in a diabetic crisis, someone suffering a severe mental health break, or someone under the influence of powerful narcotics.
Speaker CAnd the core issue is the misinterpretation of that crisis.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker BThe problem is officers often mistake the bizarre or erratic behavior of a medical crisis for intentional, malicious non compliance.
Speaker CAnd the physical tools used to handle that perceived non compliance can be lethal if misused.
Speaker BLike the wrap restraint.
Speaker CTake the wrap restraint for example.
Speaker CIt's a device that immobilizes the legs and torso, essentially locking a person into a rigid seated position.
Speaker BBut the script doesn't just say it immobilizes them, it points out severe medical risks.
Speaker BWhy does tying someone's legs and torso together lead to a medical emergency?
Speaker CIt comes down to positional asphyxia.
Speaker COkay, imagine a suspect has been running, they are exhausted, and maybe they are under the influence of severe narcotics.
Speaker CTheir body desperately needs oxygen.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThey're breathing heavy.
Speaker CNow imagine placing them in a wrap restraint locked in a seated position.
Speaker CWhere their chest is compressed, their diaphragm physically cannot extend.
Speaker BOh, man.
Speaker CThey literally lose the mechanical ability to draw breath.
Speaker BSo the wrap isn't just a heavy set of handcuffs.
Speaker BIt's a medical ticking clock.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker CWhich is why PRF notes that tools like the WRAP need incredibly strict operational guidelines.
Speaker BLike what kind of rules?
Speaker CThey must have rigid time limits.
Speaker CThe person must be under constant medical monitoring for any signs of breathing distress.
Speaker CAnd the restraint must absolutely never be used as a punitive measure.
Speaker BIt's just a temporary safety tool.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker CNot a punishment for resisting.
Speaker BSo what does this all mean?
Speaker BWe have all these necessary tactical changes.
Speaker BBanning head strikes for compliance, restricting tasers on fleeing suspects, strictly monitoring the wrap restraint.
Speaker CThis is a lot of changes.
Speaker BIt is, but.
Speaker BBut how do you actually make officers follow these rules in the chaos of a live incident?
Speaker CIt all hinges on one foundational concept that the report hammers home.
Speaker CThe critical decision making model or the cdm.
Speaker BThe cdm.
Speaker CNow, APD has been trained on this model, but right now it's basically just a poster on the wall.
Speaker CIt's a checkbox in an annual training seminar.
Speaker BNobody is really using it.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CPRF is saying the CDM must become the required everyday framework for every single supervisor investigating a use of force incident.
Speaker BSo it's about looking at the entire timeline of the event, not just the final second where the punch was thrown or the trigger was pulled.
Speaker CPrecisely.
Speaker CSupervisors must evaluate the upstream decisions.
Speaker BGive me an example of that.
Speaker CLet's say an officer shoots a suspect who charged at them with a knife in the final millisecond.
Speaker CThat force is entirely justified.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThey had to defend themselves.
Speaker CBut the CDM forces the supervisor to look upstream.
Speaker CDid the officer use distance when they first arrived on the scene?
Speaker BOh, I see.
Speaker CDid they attempt to communicate and de escalate from behind cover?
Speaker COr did they rush aggressively into the room screaming commands and inadvertently create the jeopardy themselves?
Speaker BBecause if you only look at the final millisecond, almost any use of force can look justified.
Speaker CExactly.
Speaker CThe CDM forces the department to ask, how did we get to this point and could we have prevented it entirely?
Speaker BThis has been an incredibly eye opening dive into the actual mechanics of a police department.
Speaker CIt's complex, for sure.
Speaker BAnd it shows that answering that core question, are citizens at risk of unnecessary violence?
Speaker BIsn't really about taking political size or shouting slogans.
Speaker CNo, it's not.
Speaker BIt's about fixing the plumbing.
Speaker BIt's about establishing tiered reporting so the public actually has real uninflated data.
Speaker BIt's about separating union bargaining units so that internal accountability actually means something.
Speaker BIt's about writing explicit, undeniable rules that restrict head strikes and tasers against fleeing suspects.
Speaker CAll those tangible changes.
Speaker BAnd most importantly, it's about demanding that officers aim for excellence and the preservation of life, not just basic legal immunity.
Speaker CAnd that leads to a really profound question for everyone listening to ponder as we wrap up.
Speaker BYeah, what's that?
Speaker CIf a police department successfully shifts its entire culture, if they move from constantly looking backward and asking were we legally justified to use force?
Speaker CTo instead looking forward and asking, did we miss an opportunity to prevent this entirely?
Speaker BThat's a massive shift.
Speaker CIt is.
Speaker CHow does that fundamentally redefine the everyday psychological contract between you, the citizen, and the people sworn to protect you?
Speaker BThat invisible machinery we talked about at the beginning, it dictates everything about how safe you feel in your own city.
Speaker CIt does.
Speaker CThink about what that kind of proactive life preserving trust would actually look like in your neighborhood and what it would take to build it.
Speaker BSomething to really mull over.
Speaker BThanks for joining us on this deep dive into the perf report.
Speaker BWe'll catch you next time.






